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Video Codecs & Compression Guide (Feat. Atomos Ninja V)

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Overview of video codecs & file formats a hybrid shooter will encounter with a practical emphasis on editing & storage. Incl. ProRes on the Atomos Ninja V. 👍Thanks for watching! Please like, comment, & subscribe.👍 ============================= Products Mentioned: ============================= Atomos Ninja V: http://geni.us/mMb23 Samsung 860 EVO 1TB SSD: http://geni.us/sS0U Black Magic Pocket 4K: https://bhpho.to/2IUAdJk ============================= Codec Spec Tables: ============================= H.264: https://imgur.com/RmlstTN ProRes: https://imgur.com/BVFacDy DNxHR: https://imgur.com/7dgDI9T ============================= Table of Contents: ============================= 0:55 - What Is a Codec? 1:11 - Codec Intent Explained 1:46 - Video File Containers (MP4, MOV, etc.) 2:15 - Naming Conventions: H.264 vs AVC 2:46 - Sony's XAVC & XAVC-S 3:18 - What's the Difference between H.264 & XAVC? 3:34 - The MXF Container (Material Exchange Format) 3:55 - The "Level" of H.264 4:24 - The "Profile" of H.264 4:41 - Brief Explanation of Bit Depth and Chroma Subsampling 5:05 - H.264 for Acquisition, Post-Processing, & Delivery? 6:00 - The Shortcomings of H.264 6:28 - Some Notes on HEVC H.265 6:56 - All-I vs IPB LongGOP on Editing Performance 8:20 - The Limitations of All-Intra 9:17 - Intermediary Codecs: Apple ProRes vs Avid DNxHR 10:30 - The Purpose of Proxies: Should You Convert H.264 to Edit? 11:35 - Using ProRes & DNxHR as Acquisition Codecs 12:02 - Bitrate Comparison (LongGOP vs All-I vs ProRes vs DNxHR) 14:17 - Why the Black Magic Pocket Cinema 4K Is So Special 14:36 - Atomos Ninja V: The Best Solution for Hybrid Shooters 15:40 - SD Cards vs SSD Price/GB (SD Cards Are Too Expensive) 16:30 - Practical Conclusions: Picking the Right Codec ============================= Gear I Use to Make Videos: ============================= https://kit.com/GeraldUndone/video-gear ============================= Follow Me: ============================= Twitter: https://goo.gl/YgyrCh Instagram: https://goo.gl/iLsRie Facebook: https://goo.gl/OXucJg ============================= Patreon & PayPal: ============================= If you wish to support the channel monetarily, you can use my Patreon page here: https://www.patreon.com/GeraldUndone Or directly via PayPal here: https://www.paypal.me/geraldundone This is appreciated, but unnecessary, and no content will ever be behind a paywall. ============================= Affiliate Links: ============================= Some of the links in my video descriptions are affiliate links, which means at no extra cost to you, I will make a small commission if you click them and make a qualifying purchase. If you have a different purchase in mind, you can also use these storewide links below. Amazon: http://geni.us/1m1G32 B&H Photo: https://bhpho.to/2MYRKBE ============================= Music: ============================= I've recently made the switch to Artlist for my background music needs. If you're in the market for a video music platform, use this link to get two extra months when signing up: http://bit.ly/2TV5sYT ============================= #codecs #compression #atomos
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HUGO BADAYUREN (5 hours ago)
Real Organic Information. So great! I need to go out to have a smoke rest, thanks a lot.
Lee Donohue (1 day ago)
Question: Im using the GH5 with the Ninja V and i usually record in DNxHR. According to Atomos and the meta data on the files, DNxHR HQ captures 8-bit and DNxHR HQX captures 10-bit. How is it possible that both HQ and HQX produce the same file size?
Lee Donohue (1 day ago)
Gerald Undone ahhh that makes sense! i appreciate it, Gerald! thank you!!
Gerald Undone (1 day ago)
Good question! It's because they use different compression ratios. The HQ uses 4.5:1, where the HQX uses 5.5:1. If they used the same ratio, the HQX would be larger.
Rachel Masters (4 days ago)
I felt like I got the lecture film school never gave me, but I paid for all the same....
Gerald Undone (3 days ago)
Really glad to hear that, Rachel! Thanks for saying so. Appreciate this.
Rachel Masters (4 days ago)
Oddly enough, though packed with info and technical terms, the way you deliver is very easy to understand, and I found myself able to keep up with you, which is strange for me since I've always had a hard time with the technical side of digital filmmaking. Keep it up!!!
Trevor Reed Studios (4 days ago)
Another superb video Sir.
Gerald Undone (4 days ago)
Thank you very much!
Pascal Garnier (4 days ago)
Just finished a shoot with an Arri Amira as A-cam and Fuji XT3 as B-cam. Arri footage in ProRes422HQ and the Fuji XT-3 in 10-bit H265 (internal) with the Eterna picture style. Fuji footage was transcoded in FCPX to ProRes422 (no HQ option in FCPX). The footage matches nicely and the Fuji is a great B-cam for the Arri, but recording H265 internally is not really a viable option for longer shoots as I got the overheating icon a few times. It never shut down , so nothing lost, but for the next shoot I'm adding a Ninja V to the Fuji, to go directly to ProRes422 and save time afterwards as well.
Gerald Undone (4 days ago)
Yeah, I think you'll have a smoother experience with that change. But good to know it was workable and easily matched.
Tyler Sapp (5 days ago)
This video is so good. Love your channel - thanks for putting the time into making this.
Gerald Undone (5 days ago)
Thanks, Tyler! Glad to hear it. Appreciate this.
Chris Schieritz (9 days ago)
Two words "Motion JPeg" it's ridiculous haha
Marc Martel (10 days ago)
Just over here, drinking from the firehose.
Gerald Undone (9 days ago)
This made me laugh out loud.
KeckerErt (10 days ago)
Alexa XT+ Workflow: ARRIRAW 4:3 Opengate (Codex Drive) >> Intermediate: ProRes 4444 XQ >> Proxy’s: ProRes 422 Proxy >> Delivery: DCP 2k This is my favorite example of saving 50% of space by transcoding to ProRes and still keeping the quality at a maximum. LightIron introduced me to this method and it is genius. Greetings from a DIT, really enjoyed the repetition of all the abbreviations!
SnW MrT (11 days ago)
Would you recommend delivering the final project to customers in h.265? I use the denoise in Resolve and whenever I export in h264 the file size and the bitrate drastically goes down.
Orange Shots (11 days ago)
Gerald..... Awesome!!! I learned a lot in just a few minutes.
Gerald Undone (11 days ago)
Thanks so much!
Jacek Adamczyk (15 days ago)
Hi Gerald! Question to which I can't find an answer to - Which Atomos ninja V codec would be best to record from the a7III, without any quality loss comparing to internal recording, but not blowing up file sizes like crazy? is 422 LT enough or should it be at least 422?
Frank Fig (16 days ago)
Thank you so much for this information. I've been searching for a clear explanation of these codecs and their similarities/differences. 👍
Gerald Undone (15 days ago)
My pleasure. Thanks for your kind words.
Luboxon Communications (17 days ago)
FCPX offers a choice of rendering a project in ProRes422LT, 422, 422HQ as well as ProRes4444, ProRes4444XQ and uncompressed 10-bit 4:2:2. With footage recorded in 8-bit on SonyA7iii or in 10-bit on NinjaV is there a point in editing in 4444 codecs? And would it require a higher spec on the Mac? Would you say 422HQ is the "standard" editing option in this case?
Best video I've seen for months. Thank you
Gerald Undone (19 days ago)
Big compliment. Thank you very much! 😃🙏
pal2tech (20 days ago)
What a great video. I am humbled, sir. Well done.
Gerald Undone (19 days ago)
Thank you very much! 😃🙏
slingard studios (25 days ago)
Great video buddy, very informative, one stop shop regarding CODECs!
Anthony Reyes (26 days ago)
Where have you been all my Youtube LIfe...? you are a wealth of valuable, technical information, presented with absolute clarity and precision that doesn't bore me to sleep...you are my Youtube hero of the month...maybe the year...!
Gerald Undone (26 days ago)
Whoa! Thanks, Anthony! That's a big compliment and I really appreciate it.
Sooraj Balakrishnan (27 days ago)
I just came across the video today and it was darn useful. Great work Gerald. I have been your subscriber for a while but this video was just awesome and made me understand this dark world of codecs so easily. Keep it up
Gerald Undone (27 days ago)
Thank you very much! That's very kind.
S P A C ☰ C A P S (27 days ago)
Hey, I owe a Lumix g80 camera, which Iam happy atm. Im curious that IF id buy that atmos 5, could i use my G80 with 10 bit 4.2.2? Also will it possible to shoot 4k @60fps?
Cams Campbell (28 days ago)
I just got the Ninja V and your video was incredibly helpful. I've got a lot of figuring out to do yet, but I'm a lot closer to understanding how it works and what to do with it after watching your video. Nice one Gerald!
Armando Nori (28 days ago)
Hi Gerald! I love your content and I wanted to ask you for a small favor. I'm between buying a Black Magic Pocket and a Sony A7III but haven't decided yet. The fact is that I do not feel confurtable with the 4:3 sensor, but the BMPCC has way better image processing than the A7, so, in your opinnion, which one is the best of these cameras?
Armando Nori (27 days ago)
@Gerald Undone thank you very much sensei 🙏
Gerald Undone (27 days ago)
If you don't need much in the way of photographic capabilities or autofocus, then the BMPCC4K is a better choice. For hybrid shooters or vloggers, the a7 III is better.
Armando Nori (28 days ago)
@Gerald Undone I'm looking for a camera that can give me both really good quality and also portable. I'm saving money for a C200 too but it's a mid range goal. Meanwhile I want to upgrade from my 80D which is very cool for photography and some small video stuff but it's not quite a great camera.
Armando Nori (28 days ago)
@Gerald Undone documentaries, TV commercials or music videos (:
Gerald Undone (28 days ago)
What will you be using it for mostly?
Bretonc7 (29 days ago)
7:00 is what i needed to find out about when i render up vids...POS stutters and skips so bad. So hard to scrub the frames an pin point what i need to use for a key frame
Marc Kronberg (1 month ago)
Great video, very informative and great storytelling!
Vito F (1 month ago)
tihkal (1 month ago)
this is great. you're the man
Ramon Solorio (1 month ago)
Sometimes I just come back to these videos as a refresher. That treatise on the history of h.264 and it’s brethren was excellent.
Gerald Undone (1 month ago)
Thanks, Ramon! Really appreciate that.
Syed Hafeez (1 month ago)
I have a question, I shoot with sony and the bitrate for 4k 24fps is 100mbps if I shoot internally. So, what if I use external recorder like mentioned and shoot in ProRes 422 HQ? Is it also going to increase the bitrate and surpass the internal recording bitrate?
Gerald Undone (1 month ago)
It does increase the bitrate to reach the specs of ProRes 422 HQ. You might not notice a big quality difference, but ProRes is much better to edit and offers improved workflow.
George Rady (1 month ago)
Still working with QNAP to get the TVS-472XT working thru the Thunderbolt 3 - got four 1TB SSDs in a RAID 5 for optimum performance (FCPX on 2018 MacBook Pro) and I got two 1TBs to swap out for my Ninja V - in theory it should all work...
George Rady (1 month ago)
If I’m correct, the Ninja V still has not delivered the promise. ProRes RAW for the Nikon Z6 “pins n needles”
Tolis Art.com (1 month ago)
wow, the moment when you realize "this guy is the most competent person on youtube"
Gerald Undone (1 month ago)
Wow! Big compliment there. Thank you so much! 😃🙏
Charle Lombard (1 month ago)
Thanks!!! This helped me understand and figure out my workflow in a big way. I could not get footage to work on all the apps I use, but now it's smooth as butter on warm toast.
Gerald Undone (1 month ago)
Awesome! Glad to hear it. Thanks for saying so.
vex (1 month ago)
You rock! Thank you!
Grant Robertson (1 month ago)
Lots of good information. Thank you. But GEEZ Dude, take a breath. I would rather watch a 30 minute video that was easier for my brain to absorb than an 18 minute video where you spit info at me so fast that I can barely catch it all, and I was already familiar with all the concepts. Plus you get more watch time that way too.
nightryder21 (1 month ago)
Is editing prores still slow on windows?
Paul C (1 month ago)
Fantastic, intense with maximum information density. Amateur here and saw Proxies in Corel VS X9 had NOOOO idea on the what or why - this could open a new world of speed. Keep making quality content that doesn't squander time on fluff (except at the end) but that is ok because I've made highly technical how to videos and it is hard even with off camera voice overs of stills or slow mo to say everything correctly. 5 stars and big thanks. You also elicit meaningful thoughts in the comments vs the all to common hate-speak and techno babelists.
Gerald Undone (1 month ago)
Thanks, Paul! Really appreciate this comment and I'm really happy to hear you're enjoying the content. Cheers!
Олег Чичкин (1 month ago)
Great video! Thank you. Im waiting for my Ninja Inferno (not Ninja V). SSD 860 EVO is not from the list of compatible drives for your Atomos. And you say it works good. How do you think can it work with my Ninja Inferno? I dont want to buy expensive PRO only because its not included to the compatibility list )) I will be waiting for your reply. Thank you for this very informative video )
Gerald Undone (1 month ago)
I think the EVO will work very well. It's an excellent drive. That list isn't a list of the only drives that work, but rather the only one's they've tested and can say for certain do work. But I've had no issues with the EVO after months of everyday use on the Ninja V.
Wesley Aguilar (1 month ago)
Just bought that SSD yesterday for $149 lol
MAD MAX (1 month ago)
Your the reason I throw acid in my eyes and jump into traffic. Awesome videos :D
Aarón Alborés (1 month ago)
Very helpful. Just hit the like button 3 times. Thank you!!
Paddy McCann (1 month ago)
Gerald, if you were talking off the cuff, you are pretty amazing.
Gerald Undone (1 month ago)
Thanks so much! That's very kind of you to say!
Tyrone Thomas (1 month ago)
How would you characterize the EOS R that shoots 4k 8-bit at 400 MB/S internally vs something like the Sony a7 iii which shoots 4k 8-bit at 100 MB/S internally. Even at 8-bit does the higher bitrate of EOS R translate to any better image quality or benefits in editing?
Filminginc (1 month ago)
Thank you. Answered my questions!
Koka Nikoladze (1 month ago)
Gerald, the amount of value you deliver with your videos is mind blowing! I’m looking forward to this channel grow very, very BIG. Thank you!
Gerald Undone (1 month ago)
Thanks so much! That's very kind and encouraging. Appreciate it!
johnpatrickbishop (1 month ago)
So you’re probably not responding to this anymore... but just on the off chance... what is your preferred recording codec for the gh5? I rented one recently for a personal project and was unprepared for the challenges of dealing with those files editing.
Gerald Undone (1 month ago)
I use DNxHR HQX. Anything lower is 8-bit. And I edit on PC, so DNx performs better than ProRes.
Oluwaseun (1 month ago)
Anyone understands this?
Really very valuable stuff here! Thanks so much for sharing this, bookmarked as I'm sure I'll be returning to this as a valuable reference resource. I now finally understand why the All-I shot on my Fuji XT-3 is virtually uneditable on my spinning HDD (ditching that tomorrow)! Also I feel a lot better about buying a Ninja V yesterday now - I'd been on the fence looking at high capacity SD cards and the alternative monitor-only screens. Great channel, keep it up Gerald!
@Gerald Undone Thanks yes - it was very helpful and did cover a lot. Some questions remain - like when is it best deployed vs LOG and I need to properly research the BT.2020 workflow in Resolve, but I'm off to a solid start thanks to you sharing your knowledge. Cheers!
Gerald Undone (1 month ago)
Ha! Yeah, I was just about to say I have a video on the topic. Not specific to the X-T3, but it covers some of your questions. Cheers!
​@Gerald Undone I know how much work goes into making these and it's much appreciated! If I may put in a request for a future video, I'd love to hear your thoughts on Hybrid Log Gamma. I shoot Fuji XT3 which has this feature and I know it's coming to many cameras. However I'm unfamiliar with where it's best applied, the rec.2020 workflow, whether a 10-bit monitor is an essential part of the chain, what can currently output HLG etc and where I might choose it over shooting LOG. Colourist work is a big part of my job now and I'm fascinated by this, only it's tough finding real-world breakdowns on what its strengths are and how to deploy it! Wonderful stuff here, I'm off to watch more, cheers! ** Update, just found a video you posted on this subject!! Off to watch that! Cheers :)
Gerald Undone (1 month ago)
Thanks, James! Glad to hear this video was helpful. Thanks for saying so. Cheers!
Gerald Langton (1 month ago)
I have watched this video multiple times and being in sales, there is no other video out there more helpful for basic understanding of codecs. great Job!!
Gerald Undone (1 month ago)
Thank you very much! That means a lot. Cheers!
Daniele Loni (2 months ago)
Hi Gerald! how do you power your atomos ninja v? I'm looking for an external way to do it, but I can't understand if a battery pack will do it or not...
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
I use different things. I use the battery eliminator that came with it when I'm able to use mains power, other times I'll use NP-F batteries. And I have it incorporated into some rigs running on a v-mount battery. Here's a recent video I did on that: https://youtu.be/J10HUmeMV6A
Asasasasw Saddasdsad (2 months ago)
filmez jandarmii care fac abuzuri cu camera care filmeaza cu codecul DNxHR
gullintanni (2 months ago)
Thank you for Your informative and very usefull videos. I learned a lot from this one as usual. I will be looking into an external recorder and a cage for my GH4 to get 10 bit 422. I have a 256GB class 3 SD card that cost me an arm and a leg to purchase. A shogun and a 1TB SSD does not look that expensive anymore considering the improved quality and the external monitor benefits. Keep up the great work Gerald :)
gullintanni (2 months ago)
@Gerald Undone I watch you for the intel and Camera Conspiracies for the laughter :) Love you both equally :)
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
Really glad to hear this video was helpful. Thanks for saying so. Cheers! 😃👍
Torphotographic (2 months ago)
Brilliant, I'm a photographer that is relatively new to video. Again great pace with your delivery, I understood every word. I happen to be using many of these efficient settings by chance, I just know why now. Thank you.
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
Thank you! I'm glad the video was helpful. Cheers!
Pete Crouch (2 months ago)
Seriously Gezza, you are the man, how do you produce so many words (that actually make sense) as fast as you do? I am still not convinced that you are not some sort of hybrid human. I have been shooting digital video for 13 years and have just learnt more in the last 18 minutes about codecs and compression than I have by reading a mountain of guff from all sorts of sources. I would have happily paid you for all this info. Keep them coming bro you level of detail is astonishing!!
Pete Crouch (2 months ago)
@Gerald Undone HI Gerald, i wonder if you could help me with another query? I have just got the Sony A7lll and a Ninja V, but i cannot seem to get the combo quite right. For most projects i would just like to shoot 1080p at 25FPS, (we are in the UK) but in can only seem to get the A7 to output 60p or the Ninja to record 4K 25FPS Any clues?
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
Haha. Thank you very much, Pete! That means a lot. I'm glad that this video was useful. Cheers!
El Mono (2 months ago)
Dude, you should do advertisements for Red Bull
Dj-Karl Victory (2 months ago)
This guy is making everybody pro like him by watching his videos... thanks
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
You're too kind! Thank you.
q anon (2 months ago)
00:22 I smell a Canadian.
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
Yeah, that was a pretty heavy accent moment.
Scribblebytes (2 months ago)
I know this is gonna be a dumb question (I didn't take this class at college, I never hung out with cones) but if you use a dslr and run it through a ninja, it'll make it record in 4.2.2? So you can capture more info from a consumer camera? 😂😂😂 "Dislike button twice" I'm stealing that line hahaha
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
It will depend on what the camera can output through it's HDMI port. The Ninja can only capture what it's given. And thanks! 😃
Marlon Orellana (2 months ago)
Quick question for the SSD. Is the only difference just the size? I can get a 500 from sandisk or Samsung for like 50-80 range... Vs those ssd that is like 200.. 140ish difference.. Not worth imo
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
I'd have to know specifically which SSD you're comparing to. There could be a lot of differences.
Restelo 2009 (2 months ago)
OMG great info acquisition you just delivered to my intermediate level! :)
Hermeilio Aquino (2 months ago)
If I buy an atomos ninja I can record proress externally from my Sony a7r3?
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
Dirty Sock (2 months ago)
Amazing Job! tanks !!! keep it up!
J a m e S (2 months ago)
You are a great teacher!
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
Thank you!
Oscar Reales (2 months ago)
Brilliant. Very good information and so well condensed. No bullshit. Direct to the point. Thanks a lot for this video.
Jac van der Spuy (2 months ago)
Very well delivered.
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
Thank you! 😃
Winston Red (2 months ago)
Gerald is the scientist of video creation.. Subbed
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
Thank you very much! Appreciate it.
enrico parenti (2 months ago)
H265 422 10bit, best Codec around.
Sing In Perfect English (2 months ago)
OMG, no longer will I need to spend hours reading websites with very difficult to understand and very incomplete information about important tech stuff because I found you! THANK YOU!!! You are amazing! And extra extra extra points and thanks for taking the time to put in the captions and diagrams. I don't know if they're a pain for you to add in (I've done similar), but they MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE! THANK YOU!
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
Appreciate this comment. Glad that the videos are helpful. Cheers!
Milon Q (2 months ago)
You nailed it...with such ease...yeeeez
George Rady (2 months ago)
Waiting for the ProResRAW for the Ninja V and Nikon Z6 before I do any serious shooting (I need the practice anyways!)
George Rady (2 months ago)
Looking forward to Your Videos as much as this game changing upgrade (from a guy who gave up the dream in the 70s when I realized I could not afford to shoot 16mm and get anything close to whet we can do now!)
Gerald Undone (2 months ago)
I'll hopefully have a video on that when it comes out.
Dorian Taddei (3 months ago)
Like you my brain is not impeded in its speed. You do a great job of pacing ... considering you're holding back from your RT speed...I understand. : ). Great content, well organized. There are only a couple other video tech people making videos as thorough and concise as these. Well done! ... I mean well UNdone. CIAO
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
Thanks so much, Dorian! Appreciate the kind words. Cheers!
Papirazzi (3 months ago)
Outstanding information in this video. Thanks for sharing!
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
Thanks so much! Appreciate the comment. 😃🙏
xTheDonMakaveli (3 months ago)
I’m keen to try this out, great info cheers
xTheDonMakaveli (3 months ago)
Gerald Undone iv got it coming in the mail 😍
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
Thanks! 😃🙏
EcBaPr (3 months ago)
good video..
SwitchRich (3 months ago)
There appears to be a lot of latency on your Atomos at 14:50. Does that not cause problems when filming moving subjects?
SwitchRich (3 months ago)
@Gerald Undone Thanks Gerald. Reading around this seems to be a common complaint. Sony's cameras suffer the same issue with external monitors. 150ms would be too long for some of my work - but at least I could use it for exposure related purposes and fixed positions.
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
I think it's because you're seeing both images juxtaposed. When you're shooting you're concentrating on the work and it doesn't "feel" like it's that delayed. I tried to do a bit of a test on it. Nothing scientific, but it seemed to be around 150ms. It seems to vary based on camera though. The GH5 might be a worse offender. That's the one I tested at around 150ms.
SwitchRich (3 months ago)
@Gerald Undone hmmm, how could it be exaggerated in the video? It's literally capturing the image on the external monitor. I'm tempted to purchase an external monitor, but I film skateboarding - even 250ms of latency could cause me to miss a change of direction. Great video by the way. Your channel is a goldmine.
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
I feel like that's exaggerated in the video. It doesn't feel that delayed in real life. So, no, I've not had any issues with it caused by delay.
great explanation! thanks for that.
Auto Fix Pal (3 months ago)
what do you believe is the ideal DNxHR codec to convert my GH5 footage that was shot using the entire sensor (5k anamorphic) and 4k60p, those are the 2 that i shoot in the most. occasionally i shot in 10bit 200mbs 4k. But i never use all intra. What should i encode to for editing in resolve. I dont want the codec to be overkill and huge but i dont wish to loose any quality. Would DNxHR sq or lb be acceptable? right now i use prores HQ and SQ on a win 10 PC i would like to give DNxHR a go and see if it performs better during the edit. Thank you.
Auto Fix Pal (3 months ago)
@Gerald Undone okay thanks. It has to be my settings then. 👍
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
No they should be pretty similar. Within 10% size.
Auto Fix Pal (3 months ago)
@Gerald Undone So i did do a little encoding test with ffmpeg and i noticed one thing that leads me to believe i may have done something wrong or DNxHR SQ really is 6x bigger file size than ProRes SQ... Yup i rendered a clip in ProRes SQ that came out to 1gb and the same clip rendered out to 6gb as DNxHR SQ. My PC struggled with the DNxHR SQ clip but played the prores clip with ease. Is this normal?
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
I don't think I'd mess with LB, but SQ will probably be fine. I'd do a small test and see if you notice a difference. Keep in mind though that if you want higher than 8-bit, you need to use HQX.
AJ Booster (3 months ago)
Best summary I have seen.
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
Thanks so much!
Joshua Fortuna (3 months ago)
My current workflow is GH5 + Shogun Inferno ProRes HQ acquisition, SOMETIMES a ProRes Proxy intermediary, and finally a ProResHQ in case I need to re-export and a H.264 for web distribution. I feel like camera companies now realize the potential for external recorders, so they need to figure out a good internal proxy codec so I don’t have to create them after the fact
Greg McKenzie (3 months ago)
Sounds good. Well researched. Tightly edited. But I can't stand to watch it. The motormouth editing with the jump cuts makes it too stressful to watch. Remember: Our brains evolved in air-breathing mammals. The time needed to inhale is time our brains need to process the information you are speaking. Without regular pauses your thoughts become a streaming word-salad that, admittedly, sounds impressive. But the content becomes a streaming word salad. Watching or listening to a machine talking is not how I learn. Relax. Plan your content, and speak with pauses and inflection for emphasis. That will give us time to consider your thoughts, and the planning will actually make your video shorter and more useful...even with the pauses. Thanks. Sorry I couldn't watch more of it.
Kenny Simbayi (3 months ago)
All i know I not even half way through and once again you got a like This information is going to come so in handy when I finally get my new camera
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
Awesome! I'm glad to hear it. Thanks so much.
gereral1 (3 months ago)
my workflow. audio in zoom h5n then adjusted line out to in canon g30. From g30 out to 4k hdcp 2.2 splitter to feelworld 1200:1 contrast monitor and other hdmi split to computer black magic 4k mini for capture of ffmpeg pro res HQ 10bit to 2 500g ssds raid 0 using virtual dub(compatible in WINDOWS with Blackmagic 4k mini) to straxrip to change container from .avi to .mov. Import into davanci resolve 15 studio for editing. The capture file never gets reencoded thru the whole process. Export davanci to prores 422 hq at 4k. The 4k prores encoded in straxrip to YouTube at 45mbit/sec 4k even though its 1080p which results in a wonderful less compressed video for you guys. I made videos how to do this and offer my modified software for windows users if you want to save 1000 bucks on atomos IN STUDIO recorders. I like the ninja V monitor but my 760 feelworld monitor supports 450 cd/m² Brightness so its peeking 1/2 HDR but way more than SDR. This gives me zebras, focus peaking, false color, and vector scope. Also I never have to PUT MY GRUBBY FINGERS ON MY MONITOR, Everything is on buttons below, LOL. I use false color then use xrite to calibrate colors in davanci resolve and grey target for white balance. I then use false color plugin to adjust my lift, gamma. and offset. Then apply denoise(studio version only) as a prores hdmi has pixels in the signal. H264 in camera the denoise is added before recording to the 2 card slots. 3 yn 300III lights in soft boxes. No FAN NOISE. Im wondering about atomos ninja V as it has a fan. This setup also supports HDR capture and the making of REC2020 triggering of HDR TVS. I edit on a sony HDR 65 inch TV. Pc is i8700k with ROG Max hero board and amd 470RX HDR card. More than enough power to edit and scrub footage in davanci resolve studio. My HDR tv is calibrated with color test bars to my camcorder test bars as well as my feelworld monitor. The signal matches your standard color for broadcast on cable. I wanted my picture to match what you see on tv across my entire setup. I do own a spider calibration tool with a sensor that goes on the screens if I want but color bars can be used as well in your camera can send them out. My camcorder supports 2 types plus a clean hdmi out. The camcorder exactly like the profession XAmodels. Im going to buy a HDMI to SDI soon from black magic and run SDI cables in my walls to my pc in living room into the black magic 4k mini SDI in and then my studio will be complete. My splitter can remove hdcp 2.2 and capture any HDR signal via 4k bluray or Netflix but I do not condone this but have the hardware to do it with ease.
Nathaniel Garcia (3 months ago)
Liked, Subscribed, and best of all was that you answered all of my questions - literally - all of them. I'll mention you in my academy awards acceptance speech one day. "I'd like to thank the Academy for this wonderful award but I'd like to tell you about the first I got 'undone' as a videographer". Thanks Gerald.
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
Ha. I love it. I'll be waiting for that speech. Thanks! Glad the video was helpful.
Theo Sudarja (3 months ago)
Clicked the thumbs up button twice. If I like a video very much, I usually click twice as much.
Weightless Films (3 months ago)
About to invest in a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema 4K. I currently have two 1TB external SSD drives (Samsung and Sandisk). I plan to shoot in 4K at 24fps in Prores HQ. I'm shooting a pilot (about 30-40 minutes, all said and done) over a six day shoot. I'll edit with Final Cut Pro. How much more memory would I need to invest in in order to make this happen without hiccups?
Well done bro. Thank you. I'm still struggling with codecs to this day. I have to save this video as a reference to come back to.
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
Happy to help! Thanks. Cheers.
Rodolfo Armendariz (3 months ago)
THis was realy good content. Thank you for taking the time to do it.
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
My pleasure. Thank you!
Mary K (3 months ago)
recording with my a7iii on the ninja v seems to give me massive files that don't have much better quality. Can anyone tell me how i can record on the ninja v to make reasonable file sizes? trying to avoid proxies and stay consistent with 2 other A7Rii's that are on the same shoot, which are without external recorders.
Mary K (3 months ago)
@Gerald Undone thanks for the response! wish I knew this before buying... I can not seem to find the audio in pp either, are they hidden somewhere in the mov files? Was hoping the ninja V would make my workflow easier, everyone raves about it. absolutely love using it for exposure and playback however the files and codecs make it cumbersome. your vids are amazing Btw, thank you thank you!
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
The files will be bigger than on the a7 III, you can change the type of codec you are using however to save space. For instance when using ProRes, you'll have the option of "LT" which will make smaller files.
Felix Ramirez (3 months ago)
Damn, finally someone who explains the important stuff! Thanks, great information.
Julien Taming (3 months ago)
Excellent video ! For amateurs & Pros ! Big thanks !
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
Thanks, Julien! Cheers.
Richard Person (3 months ago)
Wow. I’m just looking into getting a Ninja V and wanted to understand all the benefits and details. You did a great job of hitting it all understandably and quickly. Great job.
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
Thanks, Richard!
Aerial Motion Sean (3 months ago)
impressive video, bit beth depth lol
Karl Bratby (3 months ago)
Genius.. although most went way over my head.
John Zulueta (3 months ago)
torn between atomos ninja v and bmpcc4k plus cheap screen since i could record raw on blackmagic
Achi Adamit (3 months ago)
nearly broke my spacebar watching this. but worth it!
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
Haha. That's what it's for! 😃👍
Violet Henning (3 months ago)
My brain is fried now but i have learned soooooo much
Tristan Barrocks (3 months ago)
Great content
Hexspa (3 months ago)
Do you record at 23.976 or 24? Thanks.
Hexspa (3 months ago)
@Gerald Undone Thanks, Chief.
Gerald Undone (3 months ago)
Rushmore Society (4 months ago)
Amazing content. Thank you so much for all your hard work on these videos. To summarize for the Sony A7III, the two main advantages of purchasing the Atomos Ninja V are being able to get 8-bit 4.2.2, and a higher quality codex, such as DNxHR for PC into Premiere Pro, which is less compressed and easier to edit? Am I even close? Bonus: you definitely earned a subscriber!
Gerald Undone (4 months ago)
Thanks for the kind words and for subscribing. Very much appreciated. And yeah, you pretty much nailed it. There's also tools on the Ninja you can use for exposure: wave forms, false colour, etc.
Mark Kiff (4 months ago)
Hi Gerald, really interesting video for me as I'm pretty new to all this and don't really understand it all just yet. II just purchased the ninja v to go with my a7iii. Apologies if I have missed the question but I bought the Samsung 860 pro 500gb for £126, then notice the 860 evo 1TB fro only £139. Do I really need the pro? or will the evo be just fine like you have in your vid? . Cheers
Gerald Undone (4 months ago)
For this purpose you do not need the Pro. You'll be fine with the newer EVOs.
Keaton Ditchfield (4 months ago)
Mind blown!!

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